New Project Sopwith Camel

[brodiedog]

Started a new project, the Sopwith Camel, this is the Clerget 9B rotary engine for it

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brodiedog/Clerget.JPG

[Spinner]

Nice.
Some of your plug wires seem to be going somewhere a tad weird though?

[brodiedog]

Thanks Spinner, well spotted I've had a look at the profile again and it seems as though they drop down the back of the main block similar to the exhausts.

[brodiedog]

Help needed from all you maxers, we can go to great trouble modelling the wing, tailplane, rudder and fusilage spars and joints, showing them in great detail but is there any way in max that we can cover them, using them, to support the covering???

[brodiedog]

Latest update, engine assembly finished, would appreciate any comments on the work so far!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brodiedog/Engine Asm.JPG

[pccdtk]

A litlle inaccurate - both engine and propeller - can I help with references ?!!!

[brodiedog]

Latest update, fusilage shape defined and some panels added

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brodiedog/Camel 01.JPG

[pccdtk]

Looks pretty close ...however all parts needs some fitting....for example vickers machine gun :

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4572/testvickers1xf9.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/358/testvickers3kn8.jpg

....I have a lot of references about Camel ...do you need help ?!!!

[bzhyoyo]

good-looking Vickers pccdtk, but with inaccuracies :
- the crank handle and feed blocks are on the other side of the gun. Actually everything from the left should be on the right.
- you seemed to have modelled the crank handle as one piece though it's not the case; see pic.

[brodiedog]

Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it, it's members like you that really push people to get the best out of their 3D modelling, once again many thanks :)

[brodiedog]

Just a small point re. the vickers gun, now the one that I've shown in my pic is the one with the conical barrel where as the one that you guys are showing is the one with the air cooled barrel, i'll just have to change it!!!!!!

[Spinner]

Might help.
There was some variation on flash sheilds and cooling end plates.

[pccdtk]

Thank's for pictures. That vickers machine ( who has several diferent models ) gun are made for "Strutter"....

[Nostromo]

a vickers bumbum

[brodiedog]

Thanks for the pics guys, really helpfull, sorry for the delay, but been away for a couple of days visiting family, the guy I have been visiting is a real, and when I say real, I mean REAL expert on military aircraft, very helpful, more updates coming soon

[robby88]

good-looking Vickers pccdtk, but with inaccuracies :
- the crank handle and feed blocks are on the other side of the gun. Actually everything from the left should be on the right.
- you seemed to have modelled the crank handle as one piece though it's not the case; see pic.

Lionel the ammunition could feed from either the left or right in the Vickers gun depending on the aircraft.

[bzhyoyo]

oh, thanks Robby, you learn something new everyday... I've never seen any pics of this type of Vickers.
But the camel pics I've seen show the crank handle on the right, that's what I wanted to point out first and foremost.
What planes had these "upside-down" Vickers ?

[robby88]

oh, thanks Robby, you learn something new everyday... I've never seen any pics of this type of Vickers.
But the camel pics I've seen show the crank handle on the right, that's what I wanted to point out first and foremost.
What planes had these "upside-down" Vickers ?

Hi lionel - not really upside down. I came across this when modeling the Sopwith Snipe - the ammo belts feed from the centre of the aircraft. The left gun is fed from the right and the right gun from the left - with spent cartridges and links being ejected from each side.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4530/wicpitak5.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wicpitak5.jpg)

[bzhyoyo]

I knew upside down was not the good expression but blame my laziness for not looking up the correct expression in a dictionary. ;)
Awesome detail on the snipe btw, I'll think I'll go have a look at your blogs to see if there's any updates.

[brodiedog]

Haven't been back for a while, computer probs!! but I seriously need your help guys with the gun panels, the top of the fusilage, from the engine cowl back to the cockpit, can't quite grasp the shape of them over the guns, please, any help appreciated.:confused: