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kiwi123
10-25-2006, 9:16 PM
http://kiwi123.military-meshes.com/ontheprowl.jpg
The last one in the series for the exhibition. I have more on the pipeline, but will have to take it easier for a while. Have some other work with more priority to look after. And I am in need of sleep and family time.
This is a depiction of the Fokker G.I.a 312 flown by P. Noomen with H. de Vries as gunner. It started as first G.I.a during the bombardment of Waalhaven (Rotterdam) airbase on the 10th of May, 1940. After shooting down 2 Heinkel 111s it landed back at Waalhaven with a punctured fuel tank and the right engine stopped.
The closest Heinkel is 5J+DA, of stab KG4, which belly landed in St. Annapolder with one crew member killed. The geschwaderkommodore Oberst Fiebig and crew were captured unhurt.
zarroun
10-25-2006, 9:28 PM
there, the magical kiwi touch is applied! i like it, good luck with the expo!
:FI:Exec
10-25-2006, 9:33 PM
Looking awsome Wiek! Glad you decided to go with the less cluttered version with less 111s:D
Danoku
10-25-2006, 9:47 PM
Love it! What is this exhibition you speak of?? Also your gonna break my piggy bank with print buying at this rate...
kiwi123
10-25-2006, 9:55 PM
Zarroun, :FI:Exec, thanks for the help as always !!
Danoku, glad you like it ! The exhibition I'm talking about is an Aviation Art display of the work of John Wallin Liberto, Ronnie Olsthoorn (skyraider) and myself. It will be at the Dutch military aviation museum, opening on the 24th of next month, running until June next year. It has been an enormous effort by a couple of people to make it as good as we can, Krazycolin being one of them.
roshent
10-25-2006, 10:05 PM
The coolest so far ! If that's the museum you mean in Soesterberg I'll be there to look them over in print ! (I work in Zeist)
EDIT: It IS the museum in Soesterberg, just saw it mentioned on their website, although it carries a 'reservation' remark. You're not gonna tell us that one of you is going to be late with his renders is he ?? ;)
kiwi123
10-25-2006, 10:20 PM
Hi Roshent,
It is indeed the museum in Soesterberg. I see no reason why it shouldn't go ahead now, unless the printer does a bad job :lol:
kevjon
10-25-2006, 10:37 PM
Very cool...really nice image Kiwi !
Danoku
10-25-2006, 10:43 PM
...until june of next year? Hmmm may have to add a stop to the trip the wife and I are planning next spring. What an awsome lineup and venue, I wish all of you much success!
denders
10-26-2006, 12:23 AM
Realy Nice! Kiwi!
looks great. have you posted all the shots that are in the gallery now?
kiwi123
10-26-2006, 12:46 AM
Yeah, I think I have.......
Very nice kiwi. Really love the addition of the flak bursts, adds plenty more to an already damn fine pic. ;)
Skyraider3D
10-26-2006, 1:54 AM
Truly great work Wiek! I really like you chose a historically accurate setting. Having seen this image evolve over the past few weeks, I really think you nailed it in the end. Very, very nice!
Fantastic subject too, but as a Dutchie I'm biased of course! ;)
Hey Kiwi...really lovely picture! I'm looking at this on some crappy "internet cafe" display but from here is looks pretty darn good. Imagine once I see it on my own PC is going to look 100% better again. Nice work.
Would be nice to see all of the work you guys have been doing in person at the exibition. Hope it goes well!
Spinner
10-26-2006, 6:14 AM
I like that image very much Wiek.
A hot foot for the jack-boot, eh?
Seeing a moment in history, close up, through the wiek-scope.
I'm sure the exhibition will be a success for you guys.
Really nice image mate!
Best of luck with the expo.
cobra6
10-26-2006, 9:34 AM
Very nice. Also because Im just in love with the Heinkel 111 :) Its nice to see some of them in a render ^_^
Cobra 6
kiwi123
10-26-2006, 9:38 AM
A hot foot for the jack-boot, eh?
Excuse my foreign ignorance here, not being that familiar with English/Australian in all it's subtleties....but ehmm...huh...what ?!
:eek:
Translate please :lol:
I love it Wiek more and more:)
Galgot
10-26-2006, 9:54 AM
Kiwi, you and skyraider are the new "école flamande" Masters . Wish you the best for that exhibition !
digiartist
10-26-2006, 11:18 AM
Superb work Wiek! You're work rate and quality level has been through the roof the last couple of weeks, truly fantastic! I love this image but furball is still my favourite of your most recent work:D
Skyraider3D
10-27-2006, 5:31 PM
This is getting unoriginal, but... Welcome to the Header :D
Be sure that Wiek would have deserved two headers this week, as he's also done the excellent piece Vertigo (http://www.military-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704). Go check it out if you haven't seen it yet.
Having just had two Spitfire headers, and with surely many more to come, I figured headering a Fokker would be nice (even though it didn't fit within the header picture and I cropped it to a Heinkel, hehe ;))
Caman0
10-27-2006, 9:04 PM
excellent work man, thumbs up!!!
An other beautifulst image!!
:salute:
coffeebot
10-28-2006, 3:34 AM
Totally top notch work. Wish I could attend that exhibition. Those prints will look great large scale.
Great Image as are all you guys do. However one detail I really hate to even suggest. It is nitpicking and probably not important, but rapeseed grown commercially didn't kick in until late in the war where it was used as an alternative to petroleum and probably only grown in select areas and much much lower in frequency. I know it is nitpicking but this was brought to my attention while doing field textures associated with the Battle of Britain. Given the attention to detail on the models I felt it was worth suggesting. Also the background image looks to be winter not May? Again not trying to be critical, just constructive with my criticism.
Spinner
10-28-2006, 4:56 AM
Great Image as are all you guys do. However one detail I really hate to even suggest. It is nitpicking and probably not important, but rapeseed grown commercially didn't kick in until late in the war where it was used as an alternative to petroleum and probably only grown in select areas and much much lower in frequency. I know it is nitpicking but this was brought to my attention while doing field textures associated with the Battle of Britain. Given the attention to detail on the models I felt it was worth suggesting. Also the background image looks to be winter not May? Again not trying to be critical, just constructive with my criticism.
Very handy info, for me, thanks.
Another flight sim will be the better for that increased accuracy.
kiwi123
10-28-2006, 9:28 AM
Great Image as are all you guys do. However one detail I really hate to even suggest. It is nitpicking and probably not important, but rapeseed grown commercially didn't kick in until late in the war where it was used as an alternative to petroleum and probably only grown in select areas and much much lower in frequency. I know it is nitpicking but this was brought to my attention while doing field textures associated with the Battle of Britain. Given the attention to detail on the models I felt it was worth suggesting. Also the background image looks to be winter not May? Again not trying to be critical, just constructive with my criticism.
You may well be right about the rapeseed Rummy. To be honest I would have preffered using a different background. But this was all I had that would work with the composition that I had in mind as well as resembling the Netherlands.
As for winter, not it is not, this was taken in June (I think you wouldn't get the yellows in winter). It was just very early and there was another cloud layer above the camera.
kiwi123
10-28-2006, 9:34 AM
Kiwi, you and skyraider are the new "école flamande" Masters . Wish you the best for that exhibition !
Thank you Galgot, that is a huge compliment ! Shame we both had to run away from our own country in search of work....we may well be more appreciated hundreds of years later :D
Superb work Wiek! You're work rate and quality level has been through the roof the last couple of weeks, truly fantastic!
Thanks Gareth, yeah it has been rather crazy, after a reasonably quiet period just building away at the spitfire and huey (still a lot of long hours), contemplating what renders to do, the inspiration and deadline pressure luckily worked in a positive way. I must admit I'm completely knackered and close to burnout.... now there's animation to finish....
:rolleyes:
Having just had two Spitfire headers, and with surely many more to come, I figured headering a Fokker would be nice (even though it didn't fit within the header picture and I cropped it to a Heinkel, hehe ;))
Personally I like "vertigo" better, but I'm glad some seem to prefer this one, at least it's not a lot worse. I'm also happy to finally have a decent render of the G.I. as it is such a beauty of a plane, but such a difficult one to do justice. The 109 and spit are so much easier, they look great from any angle. The G.I. does as well in a way, but to really do it justice is hard. Ah well, maybe I'll do more with it in the future.
Just my opinion here - Vertigo is a great image, but I do prefer this one!
giant551
10-28-2006, 11:13 AM
Ah, yet another brilliant image :) keep the coming my friend:D
Skyraider3D
10-28-2006, 12:03 PM
Shame we both had to run away from our own country in search of work....we may well be more appreciated hundreds of years later :DOne of us could help it by cuting off an ear? :lol:
the G.I. as it is such a beauty of a plane, but such a difficult one to do justice.I know exactly what you mean. I guess the G.I's shape is best appreciated in an animation! ;)
One angle you should give a try though is a near-headon, slightly from the top and side.
kiwi123
10-28-2006, 12:38 PM
One angle you should give a try though is a near-headon, slightly from the top and side.
Yeah, great angle, same as from the rear, it's the bloody camo that wrecks it though.... this plane looks dead sexy from most angles, if it would just be bare metal.....
Skyraider3D
10-28-2006, 12:47 PM
I am sure you can play with the lighting in such a way that the camo becomes irrelevant :)
Bare metal? I thought it was mostly wood! ;)
kiwi123
10-28-2006, 12:55 PM
Yes it was, that's why you never see it bare metal ! :lol:
dabighouse
10-28-2006, 8:22 PM
hey kiwi, your work is absolutely perfect, but i saw on your site (www.luijken.com) that there isn't any 'new' work from you, only at military-meshes??
kiwi123
10-28-2006, 8:30 PM
Hey, yeah, that's because I haven't had a spare 5 minutes yet to update the site !
Another masterpiece Kiwi!
Tell me, Waalhaven, is that far from Maasluis and Rosenburg?
I'm in Rosenburg/Spijkenisse these days, at the Keppel Verolme ship yard for some work.
Hehe, I even saw an excavator with the name "Ohlsthoorn" written all over it, here......
[QUOTE=Skyraider3D;9312]One of us could help it by cuting off an ear? :lol
Ever thought of modelling sunflowers?
kiwi123
10-29-2006, 8:41 AM
Waalhaven is not that far from Spike city, no...(Spijkenisse is called Spike City by it's younger habitants). It is south of the river Maas as well. But nowadays it's just more industrial area as far as I know.
Best of luck Wiek. Wish I could get there .. but I can't so you'll have to post some photos ...
Spinner
11-07-2006, 12:20 AM
Excuse my foreign ignorance here, not being that familiar with English/Australian in all it's subtleties....but ehmm...huh...what ?!
:eek:
Translate please :lol:
Sorry Wiek, I missed your post.
A hot foot was an american practical joke from the comics. The little guy sneaks up and sets fire to the shoe of the big guy. Big guy takes a while to notice, then he's jumping around yelling etc.
Jackboot is an english ref to the WW2 newsreel pics of marching german troops in Paris Warsaw etc.
So it all adds up to - Smaller airforce surprises powerful one, by cleverness and bravery.
kiwi123
11-07-2006, 8:56 AM
Ahhh... I see ! Thanks for the explanation !!
Yep, big losses for the germans in 4 days, must have hurt. Some say this is one of the main reasons that the UK didn't get invaded. Basically the paratrooper division as well as their transport fleet was decimated.
german losses:
220 Ju-52
28 Heinkel He-111
18 Ju-88
6 Ju-87
8 Me-110
29 Bf-109
6 Hs-126
2 Hs-123
4 He-59
2 Do-215
5 Do-17This out of a total of 1023 aircraft in the fleet used against the Netherlands. Thats more than half the transports and more than a quarter of the total fleet destroyed. This mostly with anti-air guns and a few shot down by the small airforce (36 G.I.a, of which 21 were lost and 36 D.XXI of which 16 were lost).
Not only did the paratroopers run in to trouble in the air, also on the ground they were soundly beaten. Even though they had far superior equipment, training and the element of surprise, the only thing saving the whole paratrooper force in the end was the capitulation of the Netherlands, most of them were captured or killed already. The intention to capture the airbases, government and important cities completely failed.
Skyraider3D
11-07-2006, 12:39 PM
Yep, big losses for the germans in 4 days, must have hurt. Some say this is one of the main reasons that the UK didn't get invaded. Basically the paratrooper division as well as their transport fleet was decimated.Add to that the losses in Crete and you have the recipe for the fall of Stalingrad, the Luftwaffe being unable to support the groundtroops sufficiently from the air.
PS. For those who don't know, the Netherlands capitulated as the Luftwaffe threatened to bomb all major cities flat, starting with Rotterdam which suffered 800 casualties as some of the bombers didn't turn back after the mission was aborted when the NL agreed to surrender.
kiwi123
11-07-2006, 12:41 PM
So, you could say that the Germans got defeated in the end because of the Dutch ! :lol:
roshent
11-07-2006, 3:05 PM
Hmm, playing with history this is... Don't forget they bombed my birthcity AFTER Rotterdam on may 17th > Middelburg. But I rather think that the BoB had more influence then the invasion of the Netherlands on the strength on the Luftwaffe.
Skyraider3D
11-07-2006, 3:27 PM
Not on the transport fleet.
NB. The capitulation on the 14th was excluding Zeeland for some reason.
Spinner
11-07-2006, 8:35 PM
I remember being struck by the Tante Ju losses the LW received in Holland. Couldn't be too good for He 111 crews' morale either, as their defensive armament didn't seen to influence the loss rate suffered.
Unsustainable loss rates was the message that comes through in my reading.
cobra6
11-07-2006, 9:07 PM
Either way we were still captured, as well as most of the rest of the continent.
The only reason we arent German today is that such a huge span of land isn't sustainable under attack. Hence the Germans eventually lost.
Sure they also lost due to individual bad choices and losses. But in the end they just took too much, which they couldnt defend.
Cobra 6
Skyraider3D
11-07-2006, 10:13 PM
But in the end they just took too muchIncluding many a Dutch bicycle! :lol:
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