Spitfire Vb Cutaway

[Clanger]

Early days building the airframe, should give some idea of the detail level I'm aiming for this time.

http://www.rgore.plus.com/SpitfireVb/Spitfire-Vb-WIP-01.jpg

[Martocticvs]

You're building a new one?! Great start!

[Clanger]

You're building a new one?! Great start!

Yeah, the first one just had too much guess work. this time I've spent months researching, plus it's not quite the same Vb this time.

[Skyraider3D]

Building a cutaway aircraft once is an impressive feat. Doing it twice is just madness. But boy does it look promising! Fantastic start!

So it's all millimeter accurate blueprint stuff this time then? Awesome...

[Martocticvs]

I think this calls for the resurrection of the 3D Masochists!

[Clanger]

So it's all millimeter accurate blueprint stuff this time then? Awesome...

Well, what's concerning me at the moment is I am constructing the frames from original plans but I'm ending up with a skinner fuselage than any outline plan I've ever come across?

[Clanger]

I think this calls for the resurrection of the 3D Masochists!

I do beat myself with a stick every night as well.

[zarroun]

Don't beat yourself with a stick! Electro shock is much more effective! ;)

Looks like a very good start. Your last one was already impressive, so I'm curious to see what this one is going to look like.

[Archetype]

lol madman!
but i can agree
i coudnt stand having models wich have errors i know of aswell

everything has to be pixelperfect

[hinoon]

Looks like a realy beasty of a time. Can't wait for the updates.

[Skyraider3D]

Well, what's concerning me at the moment is I am constructing the frames from original plans but I'm ending up with a skinner fuselage than any outline plan I've ever come across?
You would be surprised how often scale drawings are totally and utterly wrong. Can't get more accurate than factory blueprints really :D


PS. Just found this: http://www.maltaaviationmuseum.com/spitfirerestoration.asp

[krazycolin]

crikey mate... that's mosh!!! (i have no idea what that means.... ) (crikey or mosh ....)

looks great though....

[Clanger]

You would be surprised how often scale drawings are totally and utterly wrong. Can't get more accurate than factory blueprints really :D


PS. Just found this: http://www.maltaaviationmuseum.com/spitfirerestoration.asp

I've just checked other frames and it gets closer to everyone else the further forward you go? Strange.

that link is priceless, how on Earth has it failed to show itself during the 3 million web searches I've done? Photo's of the internal structure of the wings and tail are so rare.

[:FI:Exec]

Building a cutaway aircraft once is an impressive feat. Doing it twice is just madness. But boy does it look promising! Fantastic start!

So it's all millimeter accurate blueprint stuff this time then? Awesome...

Well including the mossie this would be the 3rd cutaway hes done.. Crazy foo!..

Its looking superb.. I realy dont know how you could keep yourself sane amongst all those rivits!

[zarroun]

Guess it takes an insane person to do an insane job like this :). Don't know if I would have the patience.

[Skyraider3D]

that link is priceless, how on Earth has it failed to show itself during the 3 million web searches I've done? Photo's of the internal structure of the wings and tail are so rare.:lol: Google master at work hehehe
Try an image search for "Spitfire restoration" ;)

Factory drawings are the best reference you can get, but nothing beat the visual value of a photograph of the real thing. At the moment, for work, I'm building a steam locomotive entirely from photographs. Man, I wish I had some drawings... But it's doable :)

[Spinner]

Clanger,
My brother recently told me of a chap he'd met with a Vb in his garage.Highly dubious, he only went 'cause his wife pushed him. She had an interest inthe town.
Short version: He found a treasure trove of a chap totaly dedicated to the care n history of one complete old aircraft. Non-flying, its blocked up in his garage that serves as its museum. My brother (747 captain) was invited to enter the cockpit and shown his extensive correspondence with the pilots who'd flown her. All the detail variations of the version were pointed out etc.
The owner seems the kind that's so interested in his subject that he has endless time for anyone else interested.
I'll attempt to get you contact details if you'd like?

[Clanger]

:lol: Google master at work hehehe
Try an image search for "Spitfire restoration" ;)

Factory drawings are the best reference you can get, but nothing beat the visual value of a photograph of the real thing. At the moment, for work, I'm building a steam locomotive entirely from photographs. Man, I wish I had some drawings... But it's doable :)

Doh, never searched for 'restoration' hangs head in shame.
Been to this website loads of times but this time I found this:
http://www.spitfirerestoration.com/pages/posters.html

It shows the skinny back I'm getting, yippee.

What loco are you doing? There's lot's of plans available for model engineers and some of them are exact scale. I have a set for the Evening Star.

[Clanger]

Clanger,
My brother recently told me of a chap he'd met with a Vb in his garage.Highly dubious, he only went 'cause his wife pushed him. She had an interest inthe town.
Short version: He found a treasure trove of a chap totaly dedicated to the care n history of one complete old aircraft. Non-flying, its blocked up in his garage that serves as its museum. My brother (747 captain) was invited to enter the cockpit and shown his extensive correspondence with the pilots who'd flown her. All the detail variations of the version were pointed out etc.
The owner seems the kind that's so interested in his subject that he has endless time for anyone else interested.
I'll attempt to get you contact details if you'd like?

Interested? you bet.

[Clanger]

Just to prove I've not been totally slacking off! Must up the output or I'll be drawing my pension before I finish.

http://www.rgore.plus.com/SpitfireVb/Spitfire-Vb-WIP-02.jpg

[Lukem]

Clanger you are insane! I didn't see anything wrong with the last spitfire you did. Still....

Fantastic level of detail - are you hoping to kill your computer this time?

[Martocticvs]

Nice to see some progress! Is the green a bit stronger there now as well? Closer to the real primer colour from what I remember - looks better like that I think.

[Clanger]

are you hoping to kill your computer this time?

That's the plan. Although I'm giving some thought as to how I can split the rendering up if I have too.

Is the green a bit stronger there now as well?

Yeah it is, this time round I'll be playing with the textures all the way along. Got in a right state last time trying to texture after the modeling was finished.

[mrys]

Great work! Hope, that you wil have enough power to finish! I've planed to make similar thing with He 162 and Me 262, but still have not enough time to start. Maybe when I will be payed for my books like Stephen King I find time;)

Factory drawings are very helpfull, but still don't trust them in 100%. I've made few hundred drawings until now, but only few was based on so good references as factory materials. Even then I found some differences between drawings and real plane.

My friend from Muzeum Lotnictwa w Krakowie (Museum of Aviation in Cracow) said me one time, that they measure their Spitfire,s (Mk XIV if I remember) wingspan. They found them obout 10 cm shorter then on fabric blueprints and any official materials.

[Skyraider3D]

Impressive. I think this one is gonna take a weeee bit longer... ;)



My friend from Muzeum Lotnictwa w Krakowie (Museum of Aviation in Cracow) said me one time, that they measure their Spitfire,s (Mk XIV if I remember) wingspan. They found them obout 10 cm shorter then on fabric blueprints and any official materials.Did they measure the dihedral too? Maybe its pilot had pulled too many G's? :lol:

[krazycolin]

i once counted the rivets on an me109g. 360,295. minus the ones that had miraculously fallen out right into my waiting hands....

JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!

[roshent]

It must have happend if you post it twice... ;-)

On the other hand I'm counting rivets to measure a certain distance of a plane that doesn't exist anymore... I do hope the next update of the spit is as breathtaking as the first render was...

[krazycolin]

uh... oops. that's never happened to me.... oh well... do they both count????